(Over)Protective Parents: Helpful or Harmful?

by DrRobyn on July 30, 2008

Are Some Parents Too Overprotective? What do you think?

Dr. Robyn J.A. Silverman

My mom and I were speaking on the phone yesterday about a recent New York Times article on overprotective “helicopter parents,” their children and overnight camps. Did you see it?

Parents are “bombarding the camp with calls: one wanted help arranging private guitar lessons for her daughter, another did not like the sound of her child’s voice during a recent conversation, and a third needed to know — preferably today — which of her daughter’s four varieties of vitamins had run out. All before lunch.

We were laughing about how times certainly have changed since we were all younger– when parents told us to get up, rub some dirt on it, and give it another go. My Mom and I were trying to remember if I ever called when I was away at camp– maybe once– but we’re not completely certain of that figure. Of course, we didn’t have cell phones, email, web cams, or texting when we were kids– but would we have used them if we did?

People have been throwing around the term “helicopter parents” for quite some time now to describe parents who are overprotective of their children to a fault. Some people hate the term and others believe it’s spot on. Mothers and fathers often cite that “times have changed” and more hand-holding is necessary, even though, by many accounts, children in the United States are safer than ever. So is our attempt to protect negatively affecting our children’s ability to be self-determined and independent? What do you think?

Who: Sociologists find that helicopter parents tend to be mothers and fathers of “Millennials,” children of baby boomers, born between the early 1980s and 2000.

They saw their youngsters as “special,” and they sheltered them. Parents outfitted their cars with Baby on Board stickers. They insisted their children wear bicycle helmets, knee pads and elbow guards. They scheduled children’s every hour with organized extracurricular activities. They led the PTA and developed best-friend-like relationships with their children…Today, they keep in constant touch with their offspring via e-mail and cell phones. And when their children go off to college, parents stay just as involved.

Where do we see it: It’s been reported that overprotective parents are noticed on sports fields, schools, colleges, after-school programs, and now, even overnight camps. As I mentioned above, an article in the New York Times reported that overprotective parents have seeped into the camp culture, a place where children’s distance from home was often equated with “growing up” and “standing on their own 2 feet.”

In fact, the camps are now employing full-time parent liaisons to counsel parents from 7am to 10pm via email and phone. This position has become absolutely necessary because camps feel that they need to cater to the increasing number of parents who:

make unsolicited bunk placement requests, flagrantly flout a camp’s ban on cellphones and junk food, and consider summer an ideal time to give their offspring a secret vacation from Ritalin.

While camps want to accommodate parents, they worry that their over-involvement is negating the point of camp—a place to learn how to solve problems and make decisions without parental involvement. ]

What’s going on? Many reasons have been cited as motivators of overprotective parents. Parents are overprotective for all different reasons. In some cases, parents perceive that when they do something for their child, it comes out better. In other cases, parents feel a need for control in a world that seems more unpredictable and scary that it was when they were younger. Some parents have a fear of failure and hate to see their children struggle while others have a fear that their children will succeed and no longer need them as much as they did at one time. Still others feel entitled to check in with or about their children at any given time or they feel empowered by living vicariously through their sons and daughters who are doing things that the parents might not have been able to do when they were younger.

Here’s the rub from several sides:

(1) A study shows…Parental involvement can be very helpful. Data from 24 colleges and universities gathered for the National Survey of Student Engagement show that students whose parents were very often in contact with them and frequently intervened on their behalf “reported higher levels of engagement and more frequent use of deep learning activities,” such as after-class discussions with professors, intensive writing exercises and independent research, than students with less-involved parents. “Compared with their counterparts, children of helicopter parents were more satisfied with every aspect of their college experience, gained more in such areas as writing and critical thinking, and were more likely to talk with faculty and peers about substantive topics,” said survey director George D. Kuh, an Indiana University professor.

(2) A mixed reaction… Lenore Skenazy, a columnist for the New York Sun as well as a mother of a 9 year old son, recently talked about allowing her son to ride the subway on his own. People voiced both dismay and encouragement and called her everything from neglectful to a breath of fresh air. She used the incident to create her own blog about kids and independence, called Free Range Kids. The idea behind the concept is to live responsibly (seat belts, helmets, airbags, etc.), but not to restrict your child’s actions out of fear.

(3) The negative side of over-protectiveness, including:

(a) Undermining children’s confidence in their own abilities to take care of themselves and get things done;

(b) Instilling fear of failure such that they are denied the chance to learn how to persevere while standing on their own 2 feet;

(c) Stunting growth and development—in fact, studies have shown that these children lack some of the knowledge to negotiate what they need, solve their own problems, stay safe, and interact in close quarters with others;

(d) Inability to launch because they’re unsure of their passion, their own direction, and what to do next, if it means doing it on their own;

(e) Taking more staff, teacher, and administrator resources that would be directed towards their children but instead, must be used to tend to parental needs and wants; and, ironically,

(f) Raising parental anxiety levelsresearch has shown that parents who consistently judge their own self worth by their children’s success report feeling more sad and having a more negative self image than parents who did not engage in this behavior.

So, what do you think? Are parents going too far to protect their children and teens or are they justified in doing so? Do you think the affects are more positive or negative? Why? This is a heated topic with many different opinions. We’d love to hear your thoughts.

Please comment below!

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Angela July 31, 2008 at 3:40 pm

I came across this article and I actually smiled. As a teacher I was glad to see there was finally a term that could describe some of the experiences i’ve had with parents over the last seven years. There isn’t enough space here for me to talk about all of the helicopter parents i’ve encountered but i will say that yes they do exsist and yes the negative side is true. The strongest one i find is the fear of failure….most students i’ve had that have overprotective parents have a huge fear of failure.

drrobyn August 31, 2008 at 10:49 pm

Thank you, Angela. So glad you came by and would love to hear your take on your experience with parents. It’s sad that so many children have fear of failure due to the fact that they’ve been so protected by their parents. Of course, parents have their hearts in the right place– it can be difficult to step back– but for the good of our children, we have to muster up that courage!

Thank you for the “teacher” perspective. Come back soon.

Dr. Robyn

T.O. September 24, 2008 at 10:13 am

Hello I know the feeling and everything you say about these helicopter parents. I have two. But why is my mom…an Extreamly Over Protective Parent, does she have the right to control my life? I though we are all consider adults at 18 years old? I am now in my late 20’s.! I don’t know what to do anymore!!! She treats me and my older sister (who is in her early 30’s) like we’re 10 years old…!!
PLEASE HELP Its DRIVING ME UP THE WALL!!!!

Dr. Robyn September 24, 2008 at 3:03 pm

Hello T.O.

Thanks for dropping by!

I can tell that you’re very frustrated with your parents right now. They clearly care about you. Have you talked to them, in a very adult manner, about your concerns, wants, and needs AS an adult? Do you live very close by? Do you have healthy boundaries with you parents? As an adult, it’s very important that you talk to your parents and tell them how you feel and what you’d think would be healthier in your parent-adult child relationship. Sometimes, when people don’t move away from home (for college or otherwise), there is a lack of shift in the relationship from between childhood and adulthood. It’s past time.

Certainly, be kind to your parents. The more adult, grateful, and kind you can be, the more they will see you as the independent adult you long to be.

Best regards,
Dr. Robyn

Ellison October 2, 2008 at 9:30 pm

Thanks, Dr. Robyn. As the adult child of a single mother who was pathologically overprotective, I’ve often felt that an overprotective parenting style can be as damaging as one on the more “neglectful” end of the spectrum. I am only now recovering from years of a debilitating anxiety disorder. And don’t think my mother didn’t get involved in that, too, insisting that I visit everyone from a neurologist to a homeopath to resolve the panic attacks that were, in effect, triggered by her intrusive and demeaning behavior. It was only when I made up my mind to separate from her that I began to feel in control and less terrified.

What’s interesting is that when I was young, school counsellors, relatives, etc, noticed and tried to advise my mother about her “overprotective” attitude toward me. Now – so my therapist says – she would be diagnosed as having a personality disorder (BPD), her controlling parenting but one symptom of a broader pathology. I think we should acknowledge that where other indicators are present – intrusiveness, depression, manipulation – “overprotective” parenting may be cause for great concern.

I can’t think of how many times concerned third parties told me to assert myself with my mother – only to have the sick dynamic turn more dysfunctional.

cath November 15, 2008 at 5:39 am

Hi Dr Robyn,

Thanks for the article. My parents are over-protective too. Perhaps because I’m an only child and my parents, by themselves, don’t have a good relationship (they told me that they married because they were afraid of being alone in old age), they worry about losing me and focus much of their efforts on taking care of me.

When I was young, I was never allowed to attend any camps, unless it was absolutely compulsory. Even then, my mum did not believe that the school mandated that all students had to attend. She would imagine that I was lying and that I joined simply because I wanted to have fun and that I was being playful.

Now that I’m in my twenties, I’ve had some successes in overcoming her protectiveness, e.g. I have gone on holidays abroad alone with friends. However, I still find that even for these things that other friends seem to have no problems with, I have to beg and sometimes even cry, before my dad would relent. My mum typically continues to be glum until I return from the holiday, making me feel guilty abt it.

I would very much like to move out, but my mum has recently been diagnosed with cancer. I’ve been advised by my friends to stay put. I feel resentment for my parents, especially when I realise that my career is going nowhere because I often have to take leave to accompany them on their medical appointments.

I also worry for my mother. She is a kind woman at heart. Although she is in remission, I feel that the controlling aspect of her personality makes it hard for her to relax. My dad and her have communication problems, often leaving me stuck in between or having to help them negotitate. He would ignore her or yell at her to shut up when she nags, which only makes her more upset. She can nag repetitively for hours on smth that appears quite trivial to me, such as my dad mixing the laundry up, when some of it shld be separated.

My question is, how can I help my parents to communicate better? And how can I help them to understand that by doing things for me, and trying to control my social life (e.g. I’m already 27, they still call me when I don’t get home by 11 pm) … how can I help them understand that in many ways, this has affected my development as an adult?

Their behaviour makes me feel smothered. I have difficulties, especially in expressing myself in love relationships. Sometimes, I wonder if they were to pass on – they’re already in their seventies – I’m not sure whether I will have the courage to live on, because I’m an only child and don’t really have any close relatives to turn to. My friends are pretty supportive, but many of them have married, and I don’t want to intrude on their lives. Though we were all pretty even back when we were younger, I feel that my friends now seem more mature than me in terms of their EQ.

Thanks,
Cath

Dr. Robyn November 15, 2008 at 4:51 pm

Hi Cath-

You certainly have a lot on your plate. One thing is for sure– you have a very clear idea of the problems and struggles you are facing– you have not buried them– and that is very mature of you.

There comes a time in so many of our lives when we need a little more support than what friends or even family can provide. It;’s normal and healthy. We need an outside view and to be able to talk things out with someone who listens– and yet is not emotionally invested int eh outcome.

For this reason, and because you are so focused and clear yet uncertain at the same time, I would suggest that talking to someone outside of your family and friend circle– perhaps a counselor– would be an amazing opportunity for you to come up with a plan of action and a way to best handle your current situation. You deserve to find someone who can help guide you and hear the whole story. You deserve undivided attention and practical advice.

Would you be willing to try that? I hope so. It’s important for you to deal with this now rather than waiting any more years. After all, we don’t get unlimited time here.

Please let us know what you decide to do. We’re behind you and hope you will invest in yourself so that you can move on with confidence.

Warm regards,
Dr. Robyn

Rob November 18, 2008 at 5:05 am

Reading this artical (and others like it) has led me to believe that I am actually a child of so-called “helicopter parents”.

Honestly, debilitating is a good word for it. Annoying too. I mean, I’ve actually BEGGED my parents to let me do my own laundry, but was denied because “you cant cuz everyone’s laundry is done at once” blah blah blah. I could just do the whole load was my answer and to that I get “e-eh–nawww, thats not a good Idea!” ….

As you’ll see from my site, I’m an artist, and I actually think the reason I AM is because I gained a sense of freedom from it. How I found this site was cuz I NOW feel like my parents have took THAT away from me cuz for some reason they have a giant wall devoted to my artwork now….so it feels like its something they ENCOURAGED me to do….GAHH! I wan out of this house!!!

so yeah, I agree, debilitating is a good word for it :)

Dr. Robyn November 18, 2008 at 2:32 pm

Hello Rob-

First, I’ve checked out your site and can see you are a very talented person! Congrats on your great work and finding your passion.

It’s frustrating when parents want to do so much. I can hear, from what you’re saying, that they clearly love you and care for you– but you are feeling smothered.

Sometimes, we just throw up our hands and say “forget it” and cave in. However, other times, we need to take more action. The only person’s behavior you are in control of is your own.

You may want to call a meeting with you and your parents and express your feelings there. NICELY. Talk about how appreciative you are of their interest and their love, but you would like to do somethings that make you feel more like a responsible man rather than a child….and here are a few things– and then discuss them. They may not fully understand why you feel you want to do the laundry– or why you want to do other things similar to that.

Because we aren’t in control of other people’s behaviors, you could make some changes on your own– for example, if your parents won’t let you do your laundry in your house, take it to a laundry facility and do it there. However, I would take the “talking approach” first– sitting down with your parents and having a responsible, clear conversation– before doing this type of thing because it could come off as passive aggressive otherwise.

Hmmm. As far as the art goes– I don’t know that you’ll win that debate. The reason why? They’re proud of you. They may do it in an over-the-top way but many parents don’t acknowledge their children talents at all so at least in that sense, you’re lucky. I hear you that it’s annoying– but I probably wouldn’t fight for less “pride” when it comes to your art work, and instead, focus on the other things that are bothering you when you speak to your parents. Make sense?

Let us know when you do it. Remember, these are people who love you– so be gentle but firm. Tell them what you would like to do to help you grow up into the responsible man you want to be– be clear about what you want– and appreciative and grateful for how they’ve helped you.

Good luck-
Dr. Robyn

Amar November 29, 2008 at 8:05 pm

Hi Dr Robyn

My wife and I disagree on where to draw the line when it comes to childproofing our home. My three year old is somewhat prone to accidents like other kids his age and my wife and her family are from the “A few bumps on his head will help him learn what he shouldn’t do” school. I am not sure that that is the best approach for a 3 year old. I believe in supervision since you can never predict how hard he is going to bump his head. I am all for scraped knees etc but am wary of a casual approach towards vital organs. What is a good age for letting kids monkey around in playgrounds etc?

Dr. Robyn November 30, 2008 at 5:34 pm

Hello Amar-

This is a tough and very personal decision. There is no “right” answer.

However, you and your wife must come to a conclusion that you are both comfortable with– you must give a little– and so must she.

As the last of 3 children (and the only girl), I wanted to be just like my brothers. I romped around the playground and certainly had my fairshare of bruises, pumps, and cuts. Yes, they are part of growing up.

Children should be taught what behavior is appropriate and inappropriate on the playground so that when heads are turned they keep following the rules– but mistakes are going to happen. What are your rules? Have you discussed them with the family? Rules should have to do with safety and fairness. This is a good place to start.

Children do learn from doing– so you want to weigh your rules with what’s reasonable. Again, this is something only you and your wife would know. Safety always needs to be a priority but then again, how can a child learn how to be safe if he isn’t able to make some judgment calls, within reason (and with limits)?

Hope this helps-
Dr. Robyn

Christina January 4, 2009 at 2:37 pm

Hi Dr Robin,

Think I’m also a child of a pathologically overprotective parent. I am, however, in my early 20s. I live with my mother as my parents are divorced and things have got really bad lately. My sister and I are treated like 13 year olds. When we go out our mother calls us every 30 minutes to check up on us. Recently I had 96 missed calls on my cell when I didn’t reply. She has also threaten to send the police to the club we go to and has slapped and shouted at a guy (friend) who brought my sister and I home. Could you please give some suggestions about what we should do? We have already tried talking but she doesn’t want to understand. She thinks that what she does is right.

Thanks

Landon January 14, 2009 at 2:11 pm

My mom is way too overprotective, especially my dad. Its aggravating sometimes

Katy May 14, 2009 at 4:30 pm

I’m having problems about my mom. I’m 21 and she still won’t let me go on overnight trips. Please advise me. I’m beginning to think it’s affecting my mental health.

Katy May 14, 2009 at 4:34 pm

here’s another thing… i didn’t get even a single change to go swimming this summer. she didn’t let me go anywhere… even in places in the same province i’m in, considering my country, philippines is so small…

Katy May 14, 2009 at 4:35 pm

here’s another thing… i didn’t get even a single change to go swimming this summer. she didn’t let me go anywhere… even in places in the same province i’m in, considering my country, philippines is so small…

honey May 27, 2009 at 1:26 pm

My dad is over proctective of me, he mainly controls my life. im already 19 years old. i can understand that he cares about me very much, but the way he treat me is almost like a 15 years old, i only have abit of freedom, im not allowed to go out with my friends *during the night, most of my friends would go out during the night*, im always feeling lonely ,he keeps a copy of my time table in his room so he knows what time i start and finish, im not allowed to drive, if i want to get a job he would say im not ready and whenever i go out with my friends he always ask me ” what time you coming back, where you going, who your going etc…* i feel dont have any confident, self- system, always think negative and most of the time i just cry when one is around

whenever we have a conversation i would cry, before my dad would relate the subject. i find it really hard to express my honest feelings to him because he would say the true but it always turn out negative when i have a problem it really hard to talk to him because i feel it something will turn out bad *dont know why*.

i do talk to my friends and outside the family about it, but it doesnt really helps because they just say the same thing
i dont really know who else to turn to >=(

Dee May 28, 2009 at 11:48 am

Hey Dr Robin

I am 18 years old, and I don’t know what to do anymore. I don’t have a license and I don’t have a job. I am totally dependant on my parents. My dad is extremely overprotective. Sometimes I feel that he is deliberately holding me back from getting my lisence, because he hates it when I go out of the house and he prevers driving me to places himself. He wouldnt let me ride with my friend who already has hers. Lately I feel that I would rather not go out at all than have him drive me evrywhere, because he still makes me feel guilty for going out, as if I am letting him down or betraying him.

I have tried to talk to him but he doesnt take anyof my opinions to mind. He knows he is overprotective, but it doesnt bother him, as lng as I’m savely within his reach.
Also, I don’t want to tell him how I feel cuz it will break his heart and I fear that he will resent me. And I try to avoid the reality. I am scared of losing my friend because I dont spend enough time with them, and by the time I move out it will be too late.

I feel that I’m not able to live a happy and eventful life, like normal people my age. If ist is wrong of me to feel this way, please tell me, but what can I do to fix this, without breaking my dads heart?

Maria June 8, 2009 at 8:57 pm

Well as I read over on what you wrote and what the topic points out I have to agree fully that they do exist. I’d say I might be the youngest person whose commented on this site. Truth be told I’m only a 14year old girl. I don’t really like the fact that there are overprotective parents out there, but I do know that they could be doing this because they love us and want to see us grow up in a safe environment. Though of course nothing goes as exactly planned. I have over protective parents and they both can be pretty annoying at times. I also have an older sister who’s about 20 years old and they won’t even let her date guys! /=o They said to me that I can’t date until I’m 24 and that’s only on a double date. T_T Though the thing that really backfires on parents who are overprotective is that the child might feel a lack of faith from the parents, or it might cause a spark of rebellion in the child causing the child or teen to commit crimes or go to drugs and friends for relief. For me, well I just look up sites on the internet to see what the professionals have to say about this topic. I mean I’m not really allowed to go outside my own house unless it something that’s related with school or church. So to put this in a simple sentence. I got to the internet or television to blow off steam, but right now I really want to at least go out and exercise. Well thats about it. Man I feel better after writing this! =3 If anyone reads this please comment your thoughts about this topic!

Mikki June 27, 2009 at 1:17 am

I came across this site for a paper I’m writing for school, actually, and I found it very intriguing! I am an adopted child, and my adoptive mother is.. er was… extremely over-protective. We even lived in a very small town simply so she knew where we were at all times. Thankfully, I like to say that I”m “Grown-up”. I may only be 21 years old, but I am married, have two children, and even own my own home! Sadly, I’ve had to cut most of my ties with my parents, simply so I could live my life, the way I wanted to. Although it hurts to know that I’ve hurt them, the feeling of being my own person, after the 13 years I lived with them, for the first time!

I wish I could say the same for my husband. It’s an unusual day for us if he hasn’t communicated with his mother. He consults with her, sometimes even before me, with almost every decision we have to make. It’s like he still needs her permission to do anything! I’ve confronted him about this issue, and he doesn’t see that it’s a big deal. He is, at least, talking to me first about most things.

It’s just really frustrating. I’ve sacraficed a whole lot for us to be adults, and it seems he’s hardly done anything at all.

The last issue is well, if he makes his mom made, LOOK OUT! And we’re out a baby-sitter..

>.<

Mikki June 27, 2009 at 1:19 am

I apologize for the spelling and gramatical errors! ^_^;

Mikki June 27, 2009 at 1:47 am

I know how you feel! I’m not the author of this article, but I think I should step up on this one. Your father really seems to be over protective of his “li’l Honey” I’m sure, and he does care very much about you. I’m a parent and I just want to say that there are three things that he is VERY worried about.

1- Sex. Yep. I said it! It’s a very life changing thing for a person, and he’s worried that it’ll harm you, or that the person you sleeping with is going to hurt you. Chances are you love the person, and nothing like that would ever happen, but he’ll still worry!

2 – Drugs. I know, I know, kinda silly, but really… Their is a LOT of that stuff going on, and he doesn’t want to see the pain that even THINKING about it can do to you.

3 – He doesnt want to tell you that he’s worried and if he admits his babys grown up, he’s gonna cry, and that’s just not MANLY or however men see crying….

The only advice I can give you is to confront him. Tell him your a big girl now, and that you need to live you OWN life. It’ll be difficult, for both of you. But seriously, he does need to know how you feel. He’s always going to worry about you, but if you prove that you CAN stand up to him, that in itself is enough to prove that you can Stand up for yourself. and trust me, he’ll be so happy for you in the end. ^_^

~Mikki

Kim July 16, 2009 at 7:28 pm

I am now in my early twenties and so is my older sister. I am still in college and my sister just graduated with a B.S. We are still living with my parents, and when we want to go out with friends, we still have to ask before we leave. Even when our relatives ask us to go somewhere, my mom demands that they ask her first before asking us. Is this normal? For my older sister, if she already went out with her friends once within a week, she cannot go again until another two weeks. For me, I cannot go again until at least another month. My sister and I talked to my mom about this, but she claims that since we live under her roof, we live under her rules, and if we do not accept her rules, we should move out, but if we were to step one foot out of the house, that means we do not want to be a part of this family anymore and we can never come back. I love my family and still want to be a part of it, but I cannot stand her rules. There are so much! But if I were to move out, that means I cannot be a part of this family anymore. My sister may have a bachelor degree, but her maturity level is still like a kid, and I believe it has to do with how my parents treat us like kids and are not letting us become adults. What can I do? It’s so embarrassing to say no to my friends when they invite me to go somewhere simply because my parents are not allowing me to go. I need help!

Kim July 16, 2009 at 7:32 pm

Oh, and we are Vietnamese, so I first thought that this was the reason why my mom is so complicated, but my friends who are also Vietnamese do not have strict parents like I do. So maybe it is because we are Vietnamese AND because we’re Catholic…?

Angel July 21, 2009 at 6:05 pm

I have protective parents too. And I’m 27. My dad still treats me like a baby and worries a lot about me and my mom has a tendency to hover and run every aspect of my life. It’s embarrassing and I wish my parents would’ve allowed me to grow up. I’m engaged too but my parents think I’m too young to be married, and my parents, and much older brother, still treat me as just their daughter, little sister. And not me as a couple with my fiance. I wish they would treat my fiance like family. This isn’t normal for a 27 yr. old woman.

Dr. Robyn July 21, 2009 at 6:21 pm

Wow–

It looks like we’re going to have to explore this topic further– perhaps do a teleseminar series to discuss it more in depth on the phone?

Dr. Robyn

Kim July 21, 2009 at 8:21 pm

Yes, I would like that. How would we do that? I am looking for your email address, but I can’t seem to find it.

honey July 24, 2009 at 9:00 am

hi mikki thank you for the comment i’ll take it on board.

i just want to say about the 3 bulletpoints you made

1″- Sex. Yep. I said it! It’s a very life changing thing for a person, and he’s worried that it’ll harm you, or that the person you sleeping with is going to hurt you. Chances are you love the person, and nothing like that would ever happen, but he’ll still worry!”

first of all ive never fall in love with a person. The chances of me sleeping with a another person is very doubtful because i dont beileve sex before marriage!

2 – “Drugs. I know, I know, kinda silly, but really… Their is a LOT of that stuff going on, and he doesn’t want to see the pain that even THINKING about it can do to you”.

Drugs- when did your mind come across with that. i’ll never take drugs or self harm because it wont change how i feel and it wont change the situation im in.

3 – “He doesnt want to tell you that he’s worried and if he admits his babys grown up, he’s gonna cry, and that’s just not MANLY or however men see crying…. ”

i know he’s worried about me because he told me before and no my dad doesnt cry to see his child growning up

Leslie July 29, 2009 at 9:58 am

I have recently moved in next door to a couple of “helicopter Parents” though the father is the worst.
The little girl who is 5 often tries to talk to me through the fence and the father always says something to block it or he tells her what to say and makes an excuse to take her inside.The last time he actually said, “Anna, Mind your own affairs now and just say hello to the lady.” A little while later she tried to talk to me again and he called to her from the upstairs window where he had evidently been listening to our conversation. She has posted a couple of drawings through my fence and while they just look like random scribbles I can’t help thinking that she is trying to make contact with someone on the outside.She is never allowed to play out the front with the other kids unless her dad is stationed out the front watching her every move and running his interference across the kids games. I know that if I was a parent of small children in this street it would worry me that he is also watching my children.
One the face of it the couple seem like conscientious parents and it may be that they don’t approve of me but he’s South African and she is Slovakian and they have no friends or family visiting and although this is a nice street with lots of nice families they don’t really mix. In fact one day when I was seeing off one of my visitors and started chatting to the wife he came and sat down in the chair next to her which was between her and me and he just stared into the middle distance making it quite clear by his body language that he didn’t want me talking to his wife.
I’m mostly uncomfortable with the situation at the weekend when his wife works 12hr shifts both days.
Last weekend there was a street party for the children and I was having a little house warming party to which I’d invited my neighbours.The little girl was kept in all the day with the doors and windows closed on one of the few sunny days we have had this summer. I live in Scotland where it rains most of the time and most people like to make the best of the good weather and all of the other children in the street were involved in the party.
Part of me thinks that it’s none of my business and when I hear the little girl singing or playing quite happily I think I’m just imagining bad things about a decent chap who’s tring to look after his family as best he can.

Dr. Robyn July 29, 2009 at 5:59 pm

I’ll get back to you on it– but you can always get in touch with me through this blog or you can go to http://www.DrRobynSilverman.com and write to me from there.

It’s a very popular and frustrating issue!

Dr. Robyn

Charlotte October 8, 2009 at 7:56 am

As a parent with four young children (oldest 9, youngest 2) I am reading these entries with bewilderment… most of the ‘children’ who are complaining still live at home, are not gainfully employed and appear to rely on their parents for all necessities of life, despite the fact that they are of legal age and considered by law to be adults. I am NOT an over-protective parent but have employed ‘children’ of over-protective parents and that has been a nightmare: they lack a strong work ethic, have an overblown sense of entitlement, are not self-starters, are not motivated to do the best job possible, miss work regularly for ridiculous reasons, etc. I was taught that the world owes you nothing and if you want something you need to work your butt off to get it — EARN it! I think the same advice applies here: if you want your parents to start treating you as adults then act like them… become self-supportive by getting a job, do household chores without being told, get an education or a career, move out! You can’t have it both ways: if you are asking permission for trips, evenings out, driving privileges, etc. it must be because your parents are footing your bills. It certainly is your parents’ perogative to choose NOT to spend THEIR hard earned money at YOUR favorite dance club! I went to university for 8 years and lived away from home during that time, except for holidays and summer vacation. I respected my parents’ rules when I lived in their house (i.e., I didn’t come stumbling home drunk at 2 a.m. or throw wild parties or not clean up after myself, etc.) and I found myself a summer job that allowed me to pay for university (I also worked during the school year too). When I was at university I did what I wanted, when I wanted, how I wanted — and I paid the bill for it, not my parents. If you want the independence then earn it. Stand on your own two feet and stop blaming your parents for all your shortcomings. My husband likes to tell the story about how as a kid he wanted to play hockey but his parents, (immigrants from a country that didn’t have hockey) refused to buy equipment and sign him up, saying it was too expensive. So, he got himself a paper route and saved his money up so he could buy all his own hockey equipment, registration fees, etc. and arranged drives to/from the rink — AT AGE THIRTEEN!!!! From where I sit, he was a lot more mature then than many of you are now at twice that age. The true sign of maturity is taking responsibility for your own actions. There comes a point in your life when you must stop blaming your upbringing for your failings — the helpless victim scenario is not a pretty picture or beneficial for anyone. So, stop saying “I can’t because my parents won’t let me” and start realizing you can’t because you haven’t done anything to make yourself independent. The fault — and the future — lies with you and you alone.

DrRobyn October 8, 2009 at 4:16 pm

Thank you, Charlotte. You are quite right. Some older teens want the freedom but don’t want the responsibility. It is bewildering when that occurs. We actually had a 21 year old apply for a job with us once and his father was extremely involved– calling on his behalf (i.e. if he was sick, if we had all his paperwork), getting involved when there was a problem at work, and calling when his son was fired for inappropriate language and interactions with other employees. It struck us as so odd that the boy requested his father’s involvement and that his father accepted that position. It seems that parents cut their children off at the knees when they step in in this manner. But I also agree that the young adults, in some cases, are giving their parents the “knife” so to speak, to cut them off at the knees. So there are 2 things happening here simultaneously– the need for parents to say “no” to taking over for their adult child and the need for the adult children to say yes to responsibility.

The one story that I have heard in the many articles that I’ve written about this now, is about a girl who felt that by individuating from her family, that her parents relayed she would be rejecting them. This is a limiting proposition. As children become adults, the relationship needs to change and grow. We need to allow it.

Dr. Robyn

Sam November 8, 2009 at 12:52 pm

HI Dr. Robyn,
Im actually writing a research paper on parents and how they protect their children. I have read many interesting researchers ideas on over protective parents, but i was wondering if you know why parents are like this? why are parents protective of their children? i mean i would understand why, but i was wondering if there was a psychological reason.
thankss .. sam :)

Amanda January 9, 2010 at 5:35 pm

I am 16 years old. When i was 13-14 years old i was always a good child but would lie a lot to my parents because they were WAY too over protective. They never let me go out anywhere and they never had a real reason. So when i was 15 i started going out a lot. And because of this i was honest with my parents. Its been almost two years of telling my parents everything and now we have a problem. I like to just hangout at home with my boyfriend ratehr then go out to parties. You would think this would make my parents not bother me but the opposite goes on. They kind of force me to go to parties or go out. And everytime i am just hangingout in the house its always a fight. They need to let me be on my own and relax because if they don’t i know im juts going to start lying again, failing school again and just leaving

S. Nicole February 5, 2010 at 1:10 am

I will be 20 next month and my parents drive me crazy. When I was eighteen I wasn’t aloud to walk of our street by myself. I never socialized with my peers outside of school and still don’t. Even now I have to ask permission to ride my bike at the end of the road. I can’t just go ride the bus.

People say I don’t act my age and that I am immature. I am a good student who has never gotten into trouble. if I am immauture it is only becuase I was never taught the social skills needed to act my own age.

Jake Choe February 14, 2010 at 3:09 am

I stumbled upon this site quite by accident. I have an overprotective father. For me, it’s gotten to the point where it’s more annoying than anything else. When I was a child, I wasn’t allowed to play sports. It was too dangerous. I wasn’t allowed to walk to the corner store literally a five minute walk from our house, because I could have fallen down and skinned my knee. I wasn’t allowed to learn how to ride a bike until I was 13, and even after I learned, I still wasn’t allowed to ride the bike. I wasn’t allowed to learn how to drive either. My mom was a bit better, but I suppose on the account of being an only child, still a bit overprotective, though not as bad as my dad.

Back in 2004, I was graduating from high school and ready to attend a college that I really respected and was looking forward to going to. Even though I had a full scholarship, my dad said no way: he wanted me to stay at home and attend the community college so that he could look after me at home, even if it meant he had to pay. For the record – my mom had said that she felt that I should be able to go to college, but by that time I was fed up. Since tuition wouldn’t be an issue, I packed my bags, and left across state lines in the middle of the night with my best friend, carrying a few hundred dollars in my pocket – and leaving a note on my dad’s desk. For the next three years, I studied hard, and worked two jobs in order to save money for the future; I would work during the summer as well, sometimes working three jobs at once, seven days a week. After two and a half years, I saved up enough money to buy a used car and pay the insurance on it. I still drive the car today.

I had been getting along quite well for myself, and did a good job of ignoring my dad’s persistent phone calls. Of course, there were the times when he had driven 500 miles to “just happen to be in the neighborhood” – but that is a story in and of itself.

In 2007, my mom passed away, so I decided to move back for a year in order to help out with the family business. Apparently, my dad hadn’t learned anything in the intervening three years, or his frequent visits to my campus, so I was back at square one. It was an absurd list of rules to follow: No leaving the house without permission (not even to go down the street), no meeting with friends without permission, “lights out” at 9PM, even on weekends, no watching TV without permission, and so on. There was also the stating the obvious and the advice that I didn’t really need (for example: “Don’t forget to put on your socks before you put on your shoes!” “Remember to brush your teeth!” “Eat your vegetables!”) Any attempt to question this on my part was actually considered “immature” and “rebellious,” despite the fact that I had functioned fine for three years without any help. I felt as if I was being treated like a child. If my dad was unhappy with how I was acting, he would refuse to pay me that week as if he were “taking away my allowance,” even though I would often use the money I had saved to help with upkeep. He didn’t charge me rent, so I suppose that technically, it was “his house, his rules,” but he was certainly taking advantage of the situation.

Eventually, after a year, I moved out again to complete my degree. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to return to my old college, and had to attend a “lower-ranked” college locally. I live mostly on my own now, and prefer it that way. I suppose parents often don’t change and would always like to see their children as they were when they were younger, but sometimes it goes to far. Some people would do good to realize that they have to stand up for themselves even if it means they might have to bend the rules a little.

I’m sorry for ranting, but that’s my story.

Grace February 22, 2010 at 4:48 pm

My mom is super over protective. She reads through my cell phone invading my privacy and the ppl i text!! I cant help what ppl send to me!! why should I get punished from it? Its not fair. And every time I try to stick up for myself, I get yelled at. Her excuse every single time when she asks for my phone and I say no is “Who paid for the phone?” Soo?! yeahh ok u pais for my phone. But u also paid for my room, the house I live in, the clothes that I wear, etc. You wanna examine that too mom?? Im 13 years old and cant seem to stick up to my mom for watever I do because it always ends up with either, a.) my screaming at them, b.) me getting in way more trouble than I should be in or, c.) both. I make straight a’s but I cant seem to straigten out my mom. pleazeee HELP ME!!!! It isnt my fault. Im in orchesrta. Im going to an honors recital. Do my parents expect to highly of me now that i have reached this level? I got into Spanish 1 when I was tested for a forgein language. I got invited to be in 4-5 honors classes when I get into High School. I would rather go and learn than sit at home statring at a box. I get told every day that “Im proud of you” or “I love you” or “Keep up the Good Work”. Is there something wrong with me? Wat do I do? Please help me.

Grace February 22, 2010 at 4:54 pm

Ohh and I am already looking at potiental jobs that intrest me. My GPA is 10.72. I get pass plusses on our states test that every student must take each spring. Anybody who thinks Im dumb or stupid in anyway for spilling out my feelings to nobody that probably cares is really nice. Thanks.

DrRobyn February 22, 2010 at 5:18 pm

I can hear how frustrated you all are! Grace, it’s so challenging to be 13 sometimes, isn’t it? You clearly work hard and are doing what you feel is right. Your parents may be scared or worried about you and want to make sure that you are making safe choices. A conversation when you are all calm sounds like it’s in order. What would make them feel comfortable without making you feel that you constantly need to prove yourself?

Parents need to reserve the right to check up on their children, especially their young teens, since technology is new and so is adolescence. It may not seem fair– and it may seem extreme– but I have no doubt they have your best interest in mind. Talk to them. See if you can come to a compromise so that you know how to earn their trust without feeling that they are breaking that trust. There will need to be some give and take. In the mean time, talk to your friends and let them know that you love texting with them but certain kinds of texts aren’t acceptable in your family. You do have the power to say no to your friends about that– and then you won’t have to be embarrassed about what your parents see. With technology, a good rule to go by is, if I don’t want my parents to see it, I shouldn’t be a part of it.

No one doubts that you are a smart girl. Show your parents over and over that you are trustworthy (find out what would help them to know this) and you will see that they will give you more freedom. Trust is always earned even if, in some families, it’s harder to earn than others!

Thanks for writing in.

Dr. Robyn

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